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      12-30-2020, 01:31 PM   #15
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At an Audi event I test drove RS3, TTRS, RS5 Sportback and R8 V10 Spyder and the RS5 was the one I liked the most. I felt that If I'd have to drive only one car it would something similar to this.

My only gripe with the Audi is its driving dynamics on track but seeing what BMW is doing with the G m series there could be less différence than in the past.

I'm really impatient to test drive the new M3 !
I find that BMW's RWD bias on M-performance or ///M xDrive is very noticeable in comparison to Audi S/RS. It's fairly easy to kick out the rear or spin a throttle-on 180 in the bimmers but very difficult in the Audis. This is makes a big difference to me.

To OP, I think you're looking at the G8x, RS5, or 911. I suppose Focus RS or STi get into that realm too but no thanks. That's really it for AWD track capable family haulers. If you want to be silly, I ran my X3M comp at a road course HPDE and it blew my socks off on the circuit but I wouldn't do that more than like a couple times.
Thanks for confirming my suppositions about AWD systems between both brands, I did own a m235i Xdrive for a few months before the M2 and did track it and it felt good enough even with the open diff that I did manage to get leaking.

The other "SUV" that I have been considering for a long time is a Macan Turbo or even GTS. I know it's track capable but my common sense tells me 10 days per season could a stretch..

It's still mind blowing that the Macan 4cyl Sport Edition (GTS'ish suspension) weights *** correction it weights around 3900 lbs*** so it's lighter than the upcoming M3 AWD. Of course they don't compare but Porsche made an impressive package with those Macans
Have you driven any Macan yet? Fantastic car for handling and transmission but seriously down on power even in Turbo trim, especially for the money. I have driven Macan S and the first gen Turbo and they are not fast cars. The S was slightly slower than my prior B9 SQ5 and the Turbo only marginally faster. My current X3M feels two magnitudes faster for at least $25k less than an optioned Turbo when the discounts are factored in. Macan is also cramped inside although trunk space is ok.

I like the Macan but it just doesn't pencil out when the X3M and GLC63 exist for substantially less cost.
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