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Originally Posted by tetsuo111

BMW lost me. I'm fatigued of hoping for signs of a pulse in Munich. Like another poster opined, "follow the money". I've concluded, based upon the company's allocation of capital and resources, that BMW is committed to out Prius-ing Toyota, and simultaneously resenting the values "M" used to symbolize.


The New Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing Could Be the Only V-8 Manual Sedan on the Market
The CT4-V will also ride with a stick.

The 2020 Cadillac CT5-V Is a Proper Sport Sedan

I got super excited when I saw the leak a bit over a month ago. The LT2 engine is fantastic, and I'm hoping to see the CT4-Blackwing will hopefully get a new motor, although the old 3.6TT wasn't bad, just not my favorite, however the chassis, steering, seats and magneride suspension on the last ATS-V and CTS-V were great, honestly better driver's cars than the M3/5, the interiors and quality were their biggest problem.

The new ones may not still be on the level of the Germans, but the god awful CUE is gone, in favor of an easy touch or knob controlled screen, and materials look to be improved. And the prices don't seem too bad, $55k for the CT4 and $85K for the CT5, definitely undercuts the Germans significantly. I'm definitely gonna check one out, there'll only be three choices left for a high-performance four door with a stick now, the Cadi's and the Bimmer.