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      12-28-2019, 08:49 PM   #124
MistaVauros
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Exactly. The performance speaks volumes. But Have you all owned or driven the GTR? The more I drove this car the more I was in awe. It has the obvious acceleration, crazy performance, hysterical admiration from fellow drivers, etc but the GTR has so much more character than most any other car I've own or driven. Love the i8, GT3, M5 but ordering another GTR....
Driven, yes. Owned, no. I have no interest in owning a sports car that is not a manual.
I respect your preference. However, I will not be going back to a manual at this point. My first E46 M3 ZCP was manual, and the second one was SMG. The last manual car I owned was a Nismo Z. After experiencing proper Dual Clutch transmissions in the E92 I had and the two GTRs I've owned, manuals are just a antiquated at this point.

I think people forget why manuals USED to be so highly coveted in motor sports/racing... it's because they were the fastest option available for lap times/auto-cross, circuit, etc, compared to traditional auto/torque converter trans. Guess what? Those days are long gone and now Dual Clutch and ZF autos are the fastest options available for the aforementioned activities. Do you give up a bit of engagement/work/effort... sure. The gain, however, more than makes up for what you lose in engagement/work. You get to extract every ounce of power and performance from a vehicle now because you get a super fast shifting transmissions that yields the same results, every time.

There's only two cars I'm interested in owning where my only choice is manual: GT350-R or R34 GTR. Aside from those, give me a dual clutch or ZF every time.
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