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Notice he said M5CS is still a better car as an overall package.
I now have very high expectations of the M3CS.
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I actually don't think the M3 CS will be than much better than an M3 xdrive is now, or much better than this CSL.
No one is complaining that the CSL rides poorly or doesn't hit the sweet spot. They are complaining that it either isn't loud enough to be a CSL, or the steering changes aren't big enough relative to the base car. Also a lot of feedback in the engine being almost diesel like with its added boost. That seems to be carrying over to the CS. That's an s58 problem.
The CS's to have have already been made. Let's see what happens with the g87.
But the next great BMW M car, imo, will be electric. And if you want a great CS car, grab an M2 CS or M5 CS. |
If the m5cs is that much better than a normal m5comp - why cant a m3cs be the same vs a m3comp? Dont see your logic here at all. |
It certainly can be and I hope it is. It's just that a lot of development went on the CSL (almost 2 years on the N'ring). The CS is getting a few months and a lot of the work seems to be carryover. M5 CS had CSL level time at the ring.
I also think CS will cost $140k as well, there seems to be big expectations rhat it will be cheaper. I don't see that happening. |
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Originally Posted by ScullyD
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Originally Posted by thebigcheese
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Originally Posted by ScullyD
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Originally Posted by Purekoryo
Notice he said M5CS is still a better car as an overall package.
I now have very high expectations of the M3CS.
|
I actually don't think the M3 CS will be than much better than an M3 xdrive is now, or much better than this CSL.
No one is complaining that the CSL rides poorly or doesn't hit the sweet spot. They are complaining that it either isn't loud enough to be a CSL, or the steering changes aren't big enough relative to the base car. Also a lot of feedback in the engine being almost diesel like with its added boost. That seems to be carrying over to the CS. That's an s58 problem.
The CS's to have have already been made. Let's see what happens with the g87.
But the next great BMW M car, imo, will be electric. And if you want a great CS car, grab an M2 CS or M5 CS. |
If the m5cs is that much better than a normal m5comp - why cant a m3cs be the same vs a m3comp? Dont see your logic here at all. |
It certainly can be and I hope it is. It's just that a lot of development went on the CSL (almost 2 years on the N'ring). The CS is getting a few months and a lot of the work seems to be carryover. M5 CS had CSL level time at the ring.
I also think CS will cost $140k as well, there seems to be big expectations rhat it will be cheaper. I don't see that happening. |
Theres been videos of the m3cs from last year - its been getting more than months of development. Im sure it will be great 😁