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      03-17-2021, 03:08 PM   #204
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When did BMW make the M car smaller than the standard car?
Where did I say they had to do that?

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Sure we would all love for the M cars to be purpose built sports cars ground up with optimal dimensions and weight but that’s not how it works. You make common sense arguments about weight on sports cars but turning those into expectations on M cars that have a lot of constraints is setting yourself up for guaranteed disappointment. And as someone mentioned not even Porsche with less constraints build cars primarily targeting super light weight and small footprint. The M3 is a sub $100k car based on a 4K lbs family sedan.
You make the same point I was trying to make with that last sentence. Again, if they had not made the G20 so big and heavy, then the G80 wouldn't be so big and heavy.

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CanAutM3’s fantastic coming P-car is 3650 lbs. will it be a downgrade from his lighter CS? Doubt it. And for us to sit and dissect why it isn’t lighter and how detrimental it is vs the dynamics of a base C2 etc. Is it a worth while discussion if driving it turn out to be the best thing he has done on four wheels?
That's about what the M3/4 CS weighs but with the engine in the rear and if he is still getting the Turbo, it's AWD. Dynamically, it's going to handle much different than a front engine RWD, or front engine AWD. I don't see how this applies to the G80 discussion. Can you elaborate?


And you didn't answer my question.
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